wow this is hot, can we get some more?

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we can all tell this is ai generated, tag your gallery properly

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Where do I find the real artists whose art was used to train this AI?

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they use tens of thousands of artists then generate samples then train on those samples as well sometimes, so it's going to be hard to find the "originals"

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So I guess since every AI spammer has realized nobody wants them here and has the "ai generated" tag on ignore, now they're gonna try and lie about everything they upload because if they say it's "not" AI, it's okay with the dipshit mods and admins.

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Can somebody explain to me why they keep spamming AI generated crap. There are people who like this?

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Just down vote it to hell ,I'm sure what ever idiot keeps doing this will get banned ,low scores tell others that your gallery ain't shit.

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@EDP if you think that there is a list of artists you can look at that where "these images came from", you just fundamentally do not understand how AI works.
For the moment AI generation still has many limitations when it comes to posing characters and what not (e.g. all images here have the girl standing upright, because that's the kind of poses that give the best looking results).
But it won't be long before you get to a point where "real artists" will start training models on their own stuff, then generating stuff in their own style. And you won't be able to tell one way or the other.

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I don't mind AI generated content, so long as people are honest about it

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yeah dude tag your shit as AI. Those eyes fucking jump scared me lol

And OH GOD THE HANDS!

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@uvauva2 Yeah... The sad thing is there are solutions to all of the issues AI gened art has that work. And are free. And not hard to find. It's just most people are not looking for them.

@KiT2142 Even with the flaws in these outputs, it still looks better than a LOT of humans work. The weird thing is... like... the model that corrects hands, the extension to manually input poses, and the many LoRAs and VAEs that will unfuck those eyes are like, free. Also for something like this there's an existing extension that would let you make the between images... I could do better than this in about 15 minutes. I won't because I don't give enough of a shit and I have enough to do with generating concept art for my TTRPG but like, seriously. This is amateur-hour shit. If this guy knew what he was doing you couldn't tell it was AI-generated. We're already at that point.

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果然外国人也会吵这个啊，ai厉害是偷窃了超多的高级艺术家的绘画作品，才能做到这样强大的程度

米山舞等耳熟能详的画师全部赫赫在榜，全是受害者

就看艺术家们集体诉讼ai公司成不成功了

几千名大艺术家联名起诉，现在还没有开庭，育碧主美都在里面

看这场世纪之战会不会成功了
成功了，绘画艺术会得到重生，至少也能打击现在的艺术剽窃气焰，失败了，以后ai艺术剽窃，偷窃只会层出不穷，频繁增多，就如同现在这种情况

而现有隐私法在ai的时代几乎失效，只要ai的训练集内包含你的画作甚至是你的照片，就能被人为提取出来

另外一个就是深度伪造，只要有一段10秒的视频，ai使用者就可以把你家人的脸用ai制作出来

美国概念艺术协会正在游说政客议员对ai立法，只要成功了，我们的国家也会跟进相关法律，期待这场世纪之战的成功

只可惜nvai公司没有被告，不过告sd，mj这些ai公司也足够了，因为nv的ai是基于sdai公司开发的

英国的两位议员通过游说，把ai绘画的版权法律条约申请给踢了回去，如果通过，就代表以后的ai制作的图片都可以拥有版权

欧洲成立了ai管理的相关团队

目前我国国内画师无动静，只不过需要注意的是，在我国ai衍生品可以持有版权

但，只限制于研发ai的公司可以持有版权，并且承担相对应责任，案例：腾讯文章ai，腾讯持有ai写的文章的版权

回到话题，也就是说，如果nvai是国内公司，那么第二天他就得爆炸

我国并且今年一月份发行ai的相关法律，具体实施日期暂时不清晰，但主要是针对ai服务提供者的

要求训练集没有违反法律的图片，对深度伪造进行立法，如果开始实行，国内传播ai绘画的那批人估计可能会去监狱吃几天饭吧？

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@uvauva2: "But it won't be long before you get to a point where "real artists" will start training models on their own stuff, then generating stuff in their own style. And you won't be able to tell one way or the other."

Nah, real artists, and by that I mean artists with actual desire to be artists and not pathetic hacks desperate to make as much money as possible and don't care about their craft at all, will never use this shit because, wonder of wonders, they make art ***because they like to make art***. I know this is the concept you worthless AI trolls don't get and will never understand, you just think "push butan receev art" = "me make art" because you don't care about the actual work of making art, but that''s the reality of it.

"To call people that use AI automatically not real artist is just disengenious, cause you are talking about all people using ai, so be carefull of that. " That's because they aren't artists in any way shape or form. Cope.

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@Fletchlives Nah, real artists, and by that I mean artists with actual desire to be artists and not pathetic hacks desperate to make as much money as possible and don't care about their craft at all, will never use this shit because, wonder of wonders, they make art ***because they like to make art***. I know this is the concept you worthless AI trolls don't get and will never understand, you just think "push butan receev art" = "me make art" because you don't care about the actual work of making art, but that''s the reality of it.

Real artist will use AI in the future, AI is just another set of tools in a artists kit, artist have evolved a lot, in the past they painted everything with a brush by hand. And then computers where made while a lot of people might have tought back then computers won't ever be used for art. They where wrong, there are tools today, that artist can use on the pc, to make their live easier, by for example drawing a 3d model of a character, allowing the artist to move their drawn pose in 3d in realistic ways. Making it they don't have to redraw the same model over and over for a long comic.

AI will become a important part of art in the future. Imagine all the possibilities with AI art for Artist in the future, Imagine this scenario, you are making a comic and want to introduce a new character.

You can train AI in the future on said comic and make it draw a character for you, with descriptions you give it of what you want it to be. It will then create that new character for you to your descriptions, it might not end up perfect or close to perfect but it will be close enough that you don't have to make one from scratch but can edit the one the ai created yourself to remove the flaws. That way you spare out a ton of time in creating that new character, meaning that time can be spend for more panels in your comic for example. Thinking of new future comic ideas , answer community questons, create community polls in your extra free time you just got, etc.

To call people that use AI automatically not real artist is just disengenious, cause you are talking about all people using ai, so be carefull of that.

Of course there will be bad actors, everything new will have bad actors, that use ai to just try and steal others peoples styles, but in the end that will be easily to notice and I am sure the community and juristictions will adapt laws for it.

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Guys, I'm gonna be honest, I'm just here to beat my meat, and the threshold for shiit that gets me going is pretty low. Can we just leave it tagged AI and everyone who doesnt like it blacklists it? I like it, theres a near-realism to it that few other artists can achieve without great effort, and it hits my niche... Cant we all just get along? 2 stars for the hands, sure, I dont really care.

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@nivada13 I keep hearing people talk about AI like the invention of photographs and photoshop, to me that is extremely naive and overly optimistic.

There is no historical parallel for what is happening here.

Sure the invention of photography meant instant portraits instead of needing to sit for hours while someone painted you, but the visual difference between oil painting and photos were still huge. Even the works of the great masters all had their own distinct styles, that were unmistakable for photographs (especially in the years before digital photo manipulation. People still liked paintings because well, it was a different look than a straight capture of reality. With photoshop the process of painting could be massively sped up with much more flexibility. Ok we've come to the point where concept artists take a lot of stock and nonstock photos to photobash stuff together but that isn't so different from collage and then painting over to achieve the final result. And oftentimes they do enough to make it their own.

With AI, it is not a parallel medium, not an assistant, but a master in training that can skip the entire process near instantaneously with stunning results not as an alternative art form, but the exact same art form. It is doing THE EXACT same thing artists are doing, at lightspeed, for free. Indiscriminate of style, subject, and medium. That now leaves only agency and ideation at the hands of the human initiating it, without the need for any real execution. And you think that's gonna help artists how? The very definition of an artist is in peril.

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tbh to me AI is no different than 3D model/animation

we have plenty of tools like honey select for porn that people use to make content very quickly and with the amount of mods and content available you can easily make any type of character without needing much skill.
and it even has the advantage of being consistent VS AI which has a lot of issues with that.

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机械翻译
A real artist? Perhaps a real artist, just after sending out his own art work, was plagiarized by someone using AI. In such an environment, who can persist? Of course, Jesus can persist, but most people are not Jesus

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@bulzo0n0ob05 With AI, it is not a parallel medium, not an assistant, but a master in training that can skip the entire process near instantaneously with stunning results not as an alternative art form, but the exact same art form. It is doing THE EXACT same thing artists are doing, at lightspeed, for free. Indiscriminate of style, subject, and medium. That now leaves only agency and ideation at the hands of the human initiating it, without the need for any real execution. And you think that's gonna help artists how? The very definition of an artist is in peril.

Mayby i skipped over this in my reply, yes ai can skip big steps in the process and potentially put artist in peril if used wrong. But i believe that like any other technology with good legistature, good site guidelines, and community guidlines. That people who do that, get put to court, and artist get any losses recompensed for if a ai from somebody else steals their drawing styles because it was trained on their styles.

While leaving those people free to use ai on art they drew themselves, so they can skip those steps themselves, and leave more time to do finishing touches gives more time for more panels, to be made of a comic.

I do agree that pure ai generated art should be tagged ai generated.
Mayby even in future, if AI starts getting used to assist in the creation process , that it is ai assisted as tag too. So you know something used ai to create for example a character but the artist itself fixed up the character generated by the ai . For example ai generated rem, artist fixes it, by removing for example extra fingers from hands, or redrawing hands , that ai messes up a lot. changes some tones on the skin the ai draw, changes the background touches a bit. This would be tagged as ai assisted. So you know that ai assisted in making the panels.

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Where the fuck do you people think you are? This is a piracy website for chrissake, this is like ranting about porn being evil while you're railing a prostitute. There's no worldview where making free porn with a robot is immoral but posting Joe Fuckstain's paywalled inflation art here isn't.

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@ nivada13: whole lotta words for "I'm a lazy fuck who doesn't want to do any work but still get praised as an artist"

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@fletchlives Ah the classic: I don't have any counter arguments left so lets personally attack the person making the arguments, that will surely strengthen my case!

Look, I know ai art might rub many people the wrong way, but it will become more and more prevalent as the tech advances further and further.

Instead of being full against it, and outright dismissing it fully. You could try to help make sure it is not outright banned, but it has guidlines on what is and isn't allowed with ai art.

Alternativly you could actually try to make counterpoints to points I made earlier, without personally attacking me!

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