An ask blog featuring characters owned by anthro artist Kadath.

Artist Pages:
https://www.patreon.com/Kadath
https://www.furaffinity.net/user/kadath/
http://latenightgrindblog.tumblr.com/
http://kadathart.deviantart.com/
https://kadath.sofurry.com/
https://www.weasyl.com/profile/kadath
http://www.twitter.com/UnknownKadath

Is that last page supposed to be a response to people who don't like the continued cucking of Patrick?

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To anyone who has an issue with Patrick constantly getting cucked, please consider the following:
1.) Nightshade is a known dominatrix. Whenever she's been shown to actually hook up, she's always been in control. The way she acts with guys around Patrick is entirely for his benefit. That's not her normal attitude towards sex. If she was Really attracted to those men, she'd be trying to shove giant strap-ons up their ass, like she wants to do with Patrick.
2.) Outside of what is seen in the comics, these characters have personalities and traits beyond sex. Nightshade is with Patrick because he's a nice guy, and is accepting of her personality and lifestyle choices. The same is true of Patrick being with Nightshade. She's smart and he enjoys her personality, and she is accepting of His lifestyle choices.
And, for all those people who ask 'What is special about Patrick':
3.) Patrick is a giraffe. He may not have the biggest dick in-universe, but if he's like his sister (and there's no reason to think he's not) what he does have is a Massive tongue, and being as the two used to fuck, he probably knows just as well how to use it as she does.And, when it comes to which is better in the bedroom, well; Diamond went for the giraffe tongue, not Sebastian's big dick.

Now, I don't like Patrick being cucked. As far as I'm concerned, even with consent, cucking someone is tantamount to cheating on them. Just because Patrick is okay with it doesn't make it okay in my eyes.
I also get why people don't like it. Kadath does good art, and makes interesting and memorable characters, to the extent that the viewers tend to forget that that's all they are: Characters. In our eyes, we're not seeing pictures of cartoons. What we see is someone we like (Patrick) being put through an experience (cucking) the majority of us find repulsive. Given Nightshade is the only common denominator in this, we blame her. That or Kadath, the person in control of it all... Which is just unfair.

Oh, and to everyone who complains about people paying to get scenes of their OCs cucking Patrick:
Put your money where your damn mouths are, and pay Kadath to put out scenes of the two doing NOT THAT. Kadath works on commission. Pay for scenes of Nightshade and Patrick exploring some of her fetishes, why don'tcha.

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Yeah I considered the following, sounds like BS, and I'm allowed to dislike something and I shouldn't need to pay to see characters who are allegedly in a relationship having sex with each other.
Fuck I don't need to pay for Puzzle and Domino to hook up.

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@dman69
You are allowed to dislike it. I literally said I dislike it. Second paragraph, first, second, and third sentence. If you Had considered the following, you'd have seen it.
You are right about one thing, though! You Don't have to pay to see Nightshade and Patrick fuck. There's literally half a dozen pictures of the two doing exactly that, no cucking involved, in this gallery alone, both showing supreme satisfaction!
However, if you think you have Any 'right' to seeing additional works bending to your will, you're the only BS here. Kadath has full ownership of those characters, and has no obligation what-so-ever to Ever so much as trace them again. So, if you want to keep seeing them, Especially for free, be damned happy Kadath is being nice about the whole thing.

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re: page 213

Instead of flipping the bird to the "haters" (poor choice of words for people who CLEARLY enjoy the bulk of your work, Kadath, otherwise they wouldn't bother commenting on it), how about you try MAKING IT CLEAR to the audience? I've had SO many defenders tell me that Patrick likes being cucked, but why should I need THEM to say it instead of the art speaking for itself? Every time we see Nightshade and Patrick sharing panel time with another cock, he just looks like he's tolerating it for HER sake, and she ALWAYS looks FAR more enthusiastic to be with them than she EVER is when she's just with Patrick. There are too many times when it's just the TWO of them, and he looks outright TERRIFIED of her, if not just very very uncomfortable. For the love of God, throw us a narration box giving us a glimpse into Patrick's psyche as he's watching his girl get plowed by another guy... Give us a scene of Nightshade gushing with one of her fellow Safari dancers* about why she REALLY prefers Patrick when the casual observer would see something completely different... Show them SMILING at each other while they're in the act. Is that too much to ask?

*Speaking of, make some art of Nightshade actually GETTING ALONG with her fellow Safari dancers instead of making her look like she's fucking toxic. It's bad enough that she looks like a bitch to Patrick just by himself without making her look like a bitch to EVERYBODY.

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This comment section is why artists are becoming more militant with killing sites like this one. Pray that the artist doesn't delete your hard thought out headcanon by having any of his related galleries expunged and going behind pateron lockdown due to your upvoted hate.

Your "constructive criticism" is about 100+ words of you bitching about how a character is portrayed that doesn't match your fetish. You don't know shit about the character past what you assume from whatever content you see from the artist that is updated on here. But from that lack of information you determine that Patrick is a prisoner in an abusive relationship with a hyper controlling bitch? Have you ever considered that the artist is taking commissions where the client asks for Patrick to look absolutely destroyed while Nightshade becomes a complete slut for bigger cocks? Patrick has a very cuckable face and Nightshade's confidence could be easily worked into her being a turboslut who cucks her BF on the regular. Not to mention them being a giraffe and an anubis. I would pay good money to have a comic like that because the fetish matches so perfectly to the setting.

But even if it's a perfect portrayal, the canon material proves that the portrayal is mere coincidence. Nightshade is a confident domme whom only hates Diamond and is in a loving relationship with Patrick. Puzzle and her are chill and Dynamite, due to her social anxiety, feels intimidated by her confidence.

Nightshade is a woman with a good head on her shoulders, an awesome boyfriend, and doesn't take anyone's shit. Perhaps you should pay to see the rest of this artist's content to help you realize that not only is your diatribe incorrect and uninformed, but your entitled toxicity and use of all caps shows that you don't deserve free porn.

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@dope Oh just stop with that crap you're spewing, those complaints are completely legit for this case. Not everyone's got the author's insight as to what goes on in these characters' heads, and to anyone not aware of these peeps, it does come across as a toxic relationship. You'd be surprised how powerful a first impression makes on anyone. Some minute narration that gives some insight during these scenes would clear up a lot of misconception between the two.

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My only issue is that it seems like nightshade is the only one allowed to have partners. Seems like she gets very possessive when it comes to Patrick and other women. Sounds like a one sided poly relationship. If that's true then it does seem like a toxic relationship.

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You know the problem is Kadath tries to make Nightshade into one of those lovable bitchy characters but never gives her any likable traits or redeeming qualities, so she's just a bitch at the end of the day, I'm sure her relationship with Patrick is supposed to be one of the things about her that's supposed to be likable but Kadath has just devolved their relationship into Patrick being a spineless cuckold and Nightshade being a cheating slut.
It never even makes it look like Patrick actually enjoys it like Kadath claims.

Last edited on 13 November 2019, 04:51.

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re: page 234

I can't tell if this newest picture is trying to retcon Pat and Puzzle's relationship or taking snide shots at fans. Not that it matters. At this point, if there's not spite in the newest picture there'll be some in the next.
I'm starting to see why Kadath likes Nightshade.

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Why is there a huge argument in the comments section? I'm all for debate, but everyone knows Puzzle is good for only one thing: Big-tittied fappage.

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funkwolf, I think 234 is the official retcon of all the incest comics he did of Puz and Pat.

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When you think you're a good writer but you're so absorbed and too close to the project to realize that the picture you're painting is not at all what you have envisioned and comes off as crude, mean-spirited, and generally unlikable in many places as a result. "Am I so out of touch? No! It's the fans who are wrong."

That's how Kadath do.

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Patrick on 264 reminded me of Ryan O'Neil from that one scene in Tough Guys Don't Dance LOL!

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264
Aww, how nice for Nightshade to begrudgingly let Pat stick a single finger in her asshole since it's his birthday...

https://e621.net/posts/1455153?q=nightshade_%28kadath%29
https://e621.net/posts/990866?q=nightshade_%28kadath%29

Yep... Love... -_-

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I always felt kinda bad for Gabby. but reading these made me pity her even more. Hope Olivia notices sooner rather than later :(

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https://e621.net/posts/1866703?q=nightshade_%28kadath%29
https://e621.net/posts/2228280?q=nightshade_%28kadath%29
https://e621.net/posts/289963?q=nightshade_%28kadath%29
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/22321262/

Yep, love :)

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269
Except for Ruby, ALL of these girls are species that hail from Africa. Shouldn't they all have a higher tolerance to heat?

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Robdollar

Night said it herself. They’re African by birth, but British by upbringing.
But considering how clear you’ve made it on how much you hate Nightshade, you probably elected to ignore that bit.

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@Nethen22
I guess my affinity for things being logical and making sense would naturally lead to a disdain for Nightshade, so you got me there. Seriously though, Nightshade's answer to that question is a stupid one. Any animal's natural adaptations to the environment don't just magically go away when you arbitrarily plop it into a different country. Take a penguin chick and take it into the desert, and you're gonna have problems.

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@Robdollar

Nightshade was adopted and moved to England when she was just a baby. That would cause some change, wouldn't it? Besides, Night isn't the only one suffering from the heat, and everyone except Vera and Ruby are African species. If you want to argue with logistics here, take it up with Kad. But honestly, he, along with I'm sure plenty of other people, are tired of seeing your comments about Night. We get it, dude, you don't like Nightshade or cucking. But seriously, it's ridiculous how many comments you have left stating your disdain of her. It's annoying, frustrating, and honestly sad. If you don't like her, just ignore her and pieces she's in. You don't have to like her or the fetish she practices with her boyfriend, but you also don't have to always voice how much you hate her. It got really old really fast.

But you know what? I'm not even gonna try to argue about how Night is nothing like you say she is, because I know for a fact that A). No matter what, your opinion on Night is never going to change even if people show you direct proof that contradicts your opinion of her, and B). Most people seem to unfortunately agree with your viewpoint on the Hentai forums, which they make pretty clear. If people always feel like they need to voice their dislike of a fictional character, than that's their own problem.

Last edited on 09 September 2020, 07:16.

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"If you want to argue with logistics here, take it up with Kad."
So we're both in agreement here that Kad made a punchline that doesn't make sense. That's all you had to say instead of going on a lengthy tirade about my personal tastes for a character which had nothing to do with that.

And my desire for better writing or a better representation of their controversial relationship (which is backed by a few propositions on how that might be achieved (since that's what people do when they REFUSE to have their minds changed, right?)) is "honestly sad"? I'm not the one getting this worked up over someone having a difference of opinion.

Now back on the continued topic of horrible writing...

275 - Is this implying that Nightshade's predatorial nature is also directed at CHILDREN, and that her hatred for Diamond (which is based on WHAT again?) is so all-consuming that she'll murder ANYTHING that so much as LOOKS like a zebra? Nope! Nothing psychotic about that! <:S (And since this is coming straight from the imagination of the artist and is NOT a commission, I'm pretty sure Nightshade's admission of "Oh, I'd totally murder anyone in a zebra suit and stalk little kids" can't be hand-waved away with "It was a commission, that doesn't count".)

276 - ....No. You can call a casual hangout with a friend many things, but... no. Someone who has openly (and repeatedly) expressed a complete lack of sexual desire for you just being friendly is "the single sexiest thing someone has ever done for you"? Am I just missing something, and Seb considers all of his relationships (sexual or platonic) to be completely hollow?

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@Robdollar

There was not a single point in my comment where I agreed with you, dude. I wouldn't be talking if I didn't. And my problem isn't your opinion on Nightshade. It's fine having on an opinion on a character. For example. I'm obviously huge Nightshade fan, but I'm not a fan of Diamond. It's not that she's a bitch or annoying, she just doesn't appeal to me, like Nightshade doesn't appeal to you. However, when you decide to repeatedly voice your disdain of her with pretty much every post, no matter the context, it's get pretty fucking annoying. That's why I went on this tirade, and I realize now I should've cooled down a bit.

And you saying you want a better representation of this relationship...almost every single time I've seen your comments (mainly on e621), you're vouching for Pat to dump Night and get back with Puzzle. The only thing you seem to want is to have Kad pretty much disregard all of his character development and the evolution of his artwork to restart a relationship which he has no interest in doing for pretty understandable reasons. Not to mention, that "relationship" which was just meant to be a small, fun side story, is better off dead and buried anyway. Puzzle is just fine where she is now, and Patrick is happy with Nightshade. Kadath says Nightshade loves and adores Pat, which she does, and that Pat loves Night and likes being cucked. You don't have to like it, but if it's the artist's word, that's the way it is.

Also:

275: That whole thing was meant as a complete joke. Much of the asks are light-hearted and not meant to be taken seriously, with exceptions of course. It seems you just have a tendency to take some of the stuff involving Nightshade, as well as much of Kad's work, way too seriously. I'll be the first too admit I definitely take it pretty seriously as well, albeit for entirely different reasons (there's something we can agree on).

Last edited on 22 September 2020, 06:40.

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I'm so done with this defense towards Kadath. The kink cuckolding is stupid and boring. Yes we can all agree that we can just go pay the guy to stop doing it but we need to be honest here. Kadath is just a shit artist regardless, he doesn't even know how to draw actual hot characters. Every time I wanna be like aw man he's really a talented guy. But he's not??? He draws things so shiny and it's just ugh, it's not for me. The aesthetic is depressingly unpleasing and the cuckolding jokes is fucking lame.

Like apparently Pat kinda hates it or he gets annoyed at it? Like???? What???? Then do you like it or what man? Also Nightshade is a rude person. Not even the cute Bitchy kind, she feels more like okay this person is a bit too much on the dominitrax side, I'm dating a domintrax. And even when I show my gf this stupid ass shit: She even says "No that's not how this dom/sub relationship should go. This really is pretty much a toxic relationship under the guise of sex."

So you got a woman who pretty much knows the shit and even says straight up: Hey this ain't okay. So let's stop defending Kadath over every little thing and let's just call him out: Kadath just needs to stop drawing entirely and he just doesn't have anything interesting for it not like Chalo or fuck me dude even MasterGeodi, or Fred Perry or Jay Naylor. Yeah, even fucking republican conservative idiot Jay Naylor. He can seriously make porn actually interesting and more intense. But damn dude; I get bored as fuck reading Kadath's gripe.

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SoulDRosen

Yeah? I'm so done with the shit towards Kadath.

1. Kadath himself has stated in the past that he come into contact with BDSM experts to see if he was doing things right and whether it was presented correctly. Not only did they say he was, but they also said what he was doing was tame compared to other stuff.
2. You’re griping about an artist and saying they should drawing on a site they aren’t even on. In other words, you are the absolute definition of pathetic.
3. If you had to deal with people calling your character a bitch over and over again, and those same people wanting him to restart a relationship he doesn’t want to, you would every reason to gripe.
4. By saying he should stop drawing, you’re saying he should stop trying to make a living. That is the definition of a low blow, and once again, just goes to show how fucking pathetic your are.

It’s not that Kad should stop drawing. It’s that people like you should realize that it would best if you just ignored something you clearly dislike. And yes, I am defending Kadath, fucking sue me. He does not deserve the amount of shit you’re giving him. I will continue to defend him when people who clearly don’t know what they’re talking about continue to criticize his work and characters. You’re claim of having a dominatrix girlfriend is something I find incredibly unlikely to be true. None of your criticism is founded, necessary, or valid. I would do the exact same thing if another artist I enjoyed was being criticized this way.

No matter what you say and no matter how much you bitch, the artist's word is true. Night loves Patrick dearly, and Pat is into cucking. That is the truth which you don’t need to like, but need to accept and move on.

If you think he's not a good artist, whatever. Not liking Nightshade or cuckold is fine too. But leaving hateful comments again and again (like I said, on a site he doesn't even use) and spreading misinformation is not ok.

Last edited on 22 September 2020, 20:08.

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You seem pretty defensive on towards Kadath of all people, I mean many artists get shit thrown at them for drawing horrific things on here. That's a given. That's pretty much the e-hentai culture, but you on the other hand for about 14 days practically stood tall and defended Mr. Kadath with no issue. And even pulled up the fact that Kadath had stated that he had "come into contact with bdsm experts". A thing I wasn't even aware of. Almost as if you know him rather personally, and I mean he doesn't even come on here. So why even bother with the defense? Why even bother even defending a man who doesn't come here. Who pretty much will live another day with/without our commentary on his work? You seem so strong willed. Almost as if; I was literally meeting the man himself.

Interesting. Very interesting. I know one thing thought out of all of this, you are very weird about Kadath. Weirder than anyone I know over a two bit hack who can't even write good characters without being the same archetype of "Woke/moody/antisocial/hypersexualized" oh and they gotta be gay. Constantly. Gay. All the time. It doesn't even to make sense. Just constantly gay. I'm not even against queer representation but man if I ever had the definition of coddling. Anyway.

Oh another thing; defending a man who is literally making a grand a fucking month almost as more than me is more pathetic than me bitching about a guy who doesn't even know me or is even on this site.

Edit: A MONTH. A MONTH. YOU BEEN ARGUING FOR A MONTH. SINCE AUGUST 2020. That's it you're Kadath. I don't care anymore. You are literally Kadath. No one with a piss poor ego is that pathetic would defend a furry artist for a fucking month. This is stupid. Kadath is stupid.

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I just find it ridiculous the amount of toxicity on these forums. That's my issue here.

The reason I know so much about Kadath is not because I am him. I follow on him on furaffinity, and he explains so much over on that website that you should go over there and educate yourself. Or you can keep shitting on him because he apparently does not know how to draw sexy characters and is terrible storyteller. I guess it's whatever.

So...I apologize for being a fan of an artist and love his characters and art, to the point where I want to learn as much about said characters as possible, because I'm invested and I like the story he's creating with each character. It is truly evil and sinful of me to enjoy an artist's work and get upset when people shit on him (not 'constructive criticism like some might say). I can't apologize enough for being a Kadath fan and defending him. Forgive me.

In all serious, yes, I have been at this for quite a while. I do see I've spent way to much effort arguing about this with people who've clearly made up their minds. I now realize that I'm trying to argue in defense of an artist and the characters on the hentai forums: a cesspool of toxicity and hateful comments towards artists who are just trying to put food on the table. But I guess you're right. Me defending him on these forums is pointless, and so is your bitching and whining about his art on these forums.

But whatever, you have no reason to believe I'm not him. And honestly, I don't give a single shit whether you do or not. You can continue to shit on Kadath and his work, and I'll keep being a fan and I'll continue to admire his work. A win-win for both of us, really.

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We have a comment section for a reason; meaning that we can say what we want to say about the artist. Regardless if they are a working person. They have a job, if they're bad. Then they will be told so as such. Now; if Kadath listens to this drivel that I clearly am spewing then that would be a different story but the funniest thing is. He's not. He damnwell doesn't need some lone furry trying to be his white knight. And if he does despite all of the money he's making REGARDLESS of what we say; then that's pathetic for both of you. I will gladly to continue to shit on Kadath's work because I actually liked his stuff at a point of my life. But I learned really quickly that there are BETTER WORKS BESIDES him drawing a ditzy bisexual giraffe.

On second thought; never mind. This is really bad work. Like, anime see through hair bad. We're good. Just keep being a fan. Clearly it does wonders for you.

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You keep on doing that, bud. It seems we're both wasting time by typing this shit.

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Damn, the mental gymnastics at work here...

"If you want to argue with logistics here, take it up with Kad."
"There was not a single point in my comment where I agreed with you, dude."
You've given up defending that stupid bit about African animals somehow not being able to tolerate British heat. You're agreeing with me that it's nonsensical.

"275: That whole thing was meant as a complete joke. Much of the asks are light-hearted and not meant to be taken seriously, with exceptions of course." It seems you just have a tendency to take some of the stuff involving Nightshade, as well as much of Kad's work, way too seriously. I'll be the first too admit I definitely take it pretty seriously as well, albeit for entirely different reasons (there's something we can agree on)."
So we're supposed to take it lightly, unless we aren't, and I'm taking things too seriously which is bad, as opposed to you taking things too seriously which is understandable. Makes sense...

And sure, I'd love for that "small, fun side story" (interesting way to describe the VERY FIRST Pat-Puzz story that predates EVERYTHING) to be the main story again, but if we're stuck with Patshade, the least Kad could do is draw/write them so their isn't a shadow of a doubt that it isn't just her being abusive to him.

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@Robdollar

So far, the only thing we agree on is that we take things too seriously. I was saying to take it up with Kad because he would be able to explain better than I could. I don't think it's stupid, it actually makes a little bit of sense.

As for writing something that proves that Night isn't abusive towards him...midsummer nights and storeroom quickie are good places to start. But I'm gonna tell you right now, the whole abusive angle is something you and lots of other users have completely fabricated because you don't like cuckold or Nightshade. She loves Pat, and he enjoys being cucked. Kad says so himself, and I've said it before and I'll say it again; his word is fact. Seriously, cuckold is a fetish, and what amount of sense would it make for Kad to draw fetish art where the characters don't enjoy it? I understand it's not everyone's cup of tea, but for fucks sake, there's no need to spread hate and misinformation. Kadath himself explained their dynamic to you on e621, and you still don't get it.

There comes a point where constantly writing about your disdain for Night becomes sad and pathetic, and I guess you could say the same thing about me constantly trying to explain Night and Pat's dynamic and attempting show people she isn't the "abusive cunt" people think she is, and is just super kinky and enjoys indulging with her boyfriend, who is the reason she participates in these types of fetishes. But I guess it's whatever.

Last edited on 30 September 2020, 18:20.

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"I've said it before and I'll say it again; his word is fact."
And I could spend all day showing you a picture of a circle and swearing blind that it's a square. If my word is badly explained, that doesn't make it fact. You're absolutely right in that he personally explained it to me and I (and others reading his comments) still don't get it. THAT'S how bad it is.

Contrariwise, how many people were confused by who's enjoying what in Pat-Puzz material?

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So, essentially, this whole argument revolves you making the excuse of Kad not being able to explain their relationship very well...

I am just gonna say it: that is a gigantic, steaming hot pile of horse shit. Kadath has explained it perfectly to you, has conveyed their affection for each other in some of the asks and duo posts with them, and the proof that Pat likes cucking is in my comment above. You and many other users just refuse to accept this, and have just decided to stick with you mindset of "Night's a Bitch". This is fucking delusional, and has nothing to do with the artist, and has everything to do with you. Seeing you try to put the blame on Kadath for not explaining it correctly is just as pathetic as seeing you spread hate on every single nightshade post, and you always resorting to saying "Patrick should get back together". It's just sad at this point, and just because you want it to happen, doesn't mean it's going to happen. We can't all get we want what, dude. You don't have to like it, but don't blame the artist for what is your delusion.

And ok, yes, it was a lot less confusing in the Pat and Puz comics...but that's because siblings fucking each other is way simpler than a cuck fetish...let me emphasize FETISH. A fetish that has a lot of psychological implications, but one that can learn a lot about with just some research...or by, you know, having the artist themselves personally explain their cuckold relationship to you. It's also the fetish that seems to cause the most uproar, and results in people (us) having massive debates are hentai forums over fictional characters. Yet, for some reason, incest is totally fine. The fact you're completely ok with brother and sister having a sexual relationship honestly says it all.

Oh, and if you think I'm a hypocrite for typing all of this, then whatever. I honestly don't care.

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"So, essentially, this whole argument revolves you making the excuse of Kad not being able to explain their relationship very well..."
If it was ME simply "making the excuse" that Kad's not explaining their relationship well, there'd be significantly fewer people seeing it the same way I do.

"Seeing you try to put the blame on Kadath for not explaining it correctly is just as pathetic as seeing you spread hate on every single nightshade post"
Well, I'm sorry to break your little heart, but that's just not true. If I see some piece of art that conveys LEGITIMATE AFFECTION between the two, I give what praise it deserves, usually along with some variation of "Can we get more of THAT, please?" Observe...

280 - See, THAT is kind of cute. She admits to being a size-queen, but she wouldn't change Patrick's cock size if given the opportunity. Granted, it clashes horribly with so many OTHER pieces wherein she's constantly praising her OTHER cocks just for being bigger while berating Pat in the process, but it's certainly SOMETHING.

"And ok, yes, it was a lot less confusing in the Pat and Puz comics..."
Once again you're AGREEING with me that the art could be made (in your words) "a lot less confusing."

"Yet, for some reason, incest is totally fine. The fact you're completely ok with brother and sister having a sexual relationship honestly says it all."
Yeah, nice try... You JUST SAID that Pat-Puzz comics were less confusing. Whatever you're attempting to accuse me of, you're accusing yourself of it in the process since (like myself) you find it "less confusing" than Pat-Shade material. If it's "totally fine", then it's (once again) a matter of how it's PRESENTED to us.

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HUGE Wilde-Hopps shipper over here, but here they are in a relationship that I don't fully understand. The difference between this and what's going on here in Kad's work? There's NO QUESTION about whether or not they're both ENJOYING it. I don't get it, but if this is their thing (and it CLEARLY is, no explanation needed from the artist or the peanut gallery), good for them!

"I honestly don't care."
Except that you've already said you DO care, so much so that you've already revealed multiple times that, despite your protestations to the contrary, we're both in agreement that a lot of this material has problems with how it's presenting itself.

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Wow, your skull is even thicker than I thought it was.

I said I don't care whether or not you think I'm a hypocrite.

I'm gonna say it again: the only things we agreed on is that we take things too seriously, and that Pat and Puz comics were less confusing. In terms of how the cuckold and how well Night and Pat's dynamic is represented, we don't agree on anything. The fact you can't seem to get that through your head is amazing.

And that's what I was afraid of....there was an ask page which VERY CLEARLY shows that Nightshade cares for Patrick and loves him dearly, and that still doesn't satisfy you. In the ask (which by the way, are completely and totally canon) Nightshade literally said those cocks are all fun and game, and it's not romance. Let me repeat that: IT'S NOT ROMANCE. Her relationship with Pat, on the other hand? Completely romantic, and she loves and adores him. When she fucks somebody like Markus or Buck, there is not romance or love involved...it's strictly for pleasure and for teasing Patrick, who gets riled up by seeing Nightshade get fucked. And when Night does fuck Patrick (which there are pieces which feature this) there is both pleasure and romance involved in the act. And the pieces where she looks disinterested? She does that in purpose because it makes Patrick go harder. If you stopped blaming the artist for what is clearly your delusion, maybe you would realize this.

At this point, you've proven you aren't looking for proof that Night does indeed love Patrick; you're looking for something to complain. I guarantee that if Kadath put out a whole comic which featured Night being all lovey dovey to Patrick, not being pleasured by Markus and only having intimacy with Patrick, and showing their life strictly as a "regular couple", you would still complain, and continue to resort to "pAT and pUz sHOuLd geT bAck TOgeThER".

I've finally decided that arguing with someone like you is completely fucking pointless. You take the time every to trash a fictional character in every single post she is in no matter what context, continue to complain despite visible proof, and to be honest, cross the line between sad and pathetic to completely delusional. And like I said before, most people on this website seem to agree with your assessment, which is sad, but it is now something I have to accept. If you can learn to just ignore artworks you don't enjoy, that would be fucking amazing.

In short, no more arguing from me. You can continue to be delusional all you want. Have a great day 👋

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Gotcha.

So this conversation ends with me being an idiot, many people agreeing with me because they're idiots too, and this is because of our collective idiocy INSTEAD of the artist simply creating inconsistent artwork which you yourself describe as more confusing than his other works, all because I asked a question about something had absolutely nothing to do with anything you're desperately trying to defend.

Thanks for clearing that up.

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I miss Puz ant Pat being together but this is Kad's decision after all.

I also miss the cat boy and his horse friend from the 3-part comic, hope we'll see them again.

And I cannot wait for Seb to be with Pat in an eventual future comic.

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